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rockerc
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

So, I finally hurt less enough to tackle the rest of this loop I started here:

http://www.tucsonmtb.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3963

I had been a little confused about the exact route, especially when you get round to the Wild Burro Wash from Wild Mustang, and then down the Alamo Springs trail, and the Spur. I also really wanted to try the Wild Mustang for myself.
This is not,I must say, an easy ride by any means, and there is a fair amount of HAB ing, and some tricky terrain, but if you persevere, it is well worth it! A lot of it is rideable, and will tax your skills and abilities, at least most of us mortals...

I found myself with an unexpected pass to be able to fit this in yesterday, so took off up the hill from my house, a few miles of boring asphalt, and soon was heading up the Upper Javelina. This, as I described previously, is tricky, steep and loose at first, but firms up soon, and becomes an interesting climb, mostly rideable with commitment. Keep at it, and eventually you will split off onto the Wild Mustang, climb a set of steep and loose switchbacks, and soon come to the Cochie Springs/ Wild Mustang split. The WM heads up to the ridgeline, and as I was sitting there sipping my water, 2 hikers coming down asked if I was riding up where they had come from. My "yes" was met with incredulosity, and this did nothing to ease my apprehension...

There are some steep, loose and rocky sections on the way up to the saddle, and I took a few pictures of the way along the length of the trail.

This is the trail just after the first climb after the Cochie Split:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539169975547117074

And looking up to the next bit of the traverse:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539169983872068098

General view looking back down the trail:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539169991681369314

The view is definitely worth the effort tho:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170001103792130

Then you turn round, and have to deal with this:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170003825539970

Back to the view, and you can see where you have climbed up from the Upper Javelina here. All the way down the ridge to the far right in the picture, you can see the trail snaking over the near end of the 'hump':

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170499352290066

Then a bit of the trail to climb. Quite steep in places...

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170508206239682

A couple of rocky washes to negotiate:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170512316631346

Probably a lot of this is more fun coming back down... swings and roundabouts...

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170516305749602

But eventually you will make it to here, and things get a little easier from then:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170960061921410

The trail flattens out for a while, gets a little speedier:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170961230742274

You are getting up over 4000' here, so the vegetation is starting to change:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170968096728354

Then you will get to the top end of WM and see the Upper Wild Burro down off to the right.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170966453488322

There is a nice longish technical descent around and down to the Upper Wild Burro, most enjoyable even tho I managed to nearly skewer myself at one point on my seatpost dropping off a rock, and you will eventually come to this gate in the trail. Please close these after you, the previous person had not...

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539170973736770146

Then the trail down to the WB is flatter and more open mostly, a nice way to blow away the cobwebs before the wash:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171426898957794

When you get to the Wash, you will go thru another barbed wire gate, and come to the top of the Lunch Overlook. To the right is the trail down to the Old Line House:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171434067601666

Straight on is the Lunch Overlook, (signed in the foreground Evil Tracey!):

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171440063913218

Then off to your left is the start of the Alamo Springs Trail. This is where you want to go!

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171443571741186

Then almost immediately you will come to this split. Take the left side marked Alamo Spring. This trail climbs and curves up and around the knoll up in front, and is very rideable.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171456248834098

Some parts are easier than others:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171892448011090

Some are a little trickier:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171904995816354

Then you will look up and see this: I will take Chad's word that the left hand option is not a good one, you want to take the Spur down to the right...

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171910747631826

Which does get interesting, but has some very fun DH techie challenges:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171921048478274

Here's another one... I actually attempted this drop, and in my hyper-oxygenated state, managed to get to the bottom on two wheels. I am not sure what happened in between, but here I am!

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539171925034317682

As you can see it is a lot of fun in places:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539173455664449330

And just when you thought it couldn't get any steeper and sillier, you get down to the Wash, with a flat and sandy run back down to the road. I paused here to have a food bar and breathe, and when I took off my bright red bandana, a squadron of big orangy/yellow wasp type creatures decided they wanted to live in it. Between that and my berry bar, they almost ran me off. Malevolent vengeful little brutes, I swear they had little swastikas painted on the sides of their fuselages... I have read that the pain-o-meter rating of one of their stings is similar to being drilled by a .45, so I was a little careful as I attempted to retrieve my bike and bandana. It would have made an interesting video with me running back and forth waving at the little swine as I grabbed bits of my property...

http://picasaweb.google.com/rockerc/TortolitaMtnsTucsonWildMustangLoopNov2010#5539173452307061698


All in all, the whole ride took a good 4 hours, but I was stopping to take pictures, and I did walk the bike a fair amount. My chest injury is still bugging me a bit. Hopefully you will be able to see from the pictures a little of what the loop can offer, and figure out if it's for you or not. I highly recommend it. The views, terrain, solitude and just sheer fun make it all kinds of worthwhile in my book... Can't wait for the newer trails to open up the area even more...[url][/url]
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

Has anyone found this helpful? No comments, you are either all up there checking this trail out, or the pictures don't link, or I smell...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

Nope. Links work and everything. Very cool pictures. I suppose I will have to add this one to the list of things to do...once I figure out how to get there Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hey Rockerc

I finally took the time to check out the pics nothing personal it just looked like a long post so I put it off for a while.

Not sure if you meant them to post as links or as pics what I see is a bunch of links with comments. But when I clicked on the first link I saw the whole album at once. But then no comments at the Picasa page.

I am no expert on how to post pics here but it may have been better if the comments came with the pics at Picasa or if you had done it the way people do so that we see the pics on the forum page. The directions to do that are in the website forum.

That said nice pics I have done some of that stuff it's tough but fun. That said it's not for everyone. I know Chad likes it but then Chad is a sick puppy.

I need to get up there and check out the new connector trail. I usually ride up there with Max aka Swampfox I'll have to plan on getting in touch and setting a ride up. Looks like it's going to have to wait until December at this point tho.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

I looked at trying to get the pictures up as content on the post, checked all the forum instructions etc, but it still does not seem to work. Any tips much appreciated! When I click on the links it just brings up one picture at a time in a new window, so that is something at least. I dont understand why it should bring up the whole album, that is not what I intended... As for the trail itself, I guess it is not for everyone, and sometimes it would be a little frustrating having to get on and off the bike all the time. I do enjoy a challenge sometimes, and this is definitely that...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

One persons epic ride in an others hike a bike nightmare. It really just depends on what you want out of your ride.

Sometimes I like to do rides that are entirely rideable other times I also enjoy a challenge and don't mind walking some.

There is a trail planned off the end of Cougar that will when completed be more rideable but it will still be a big climb to access the upper stuff. That area will never be for everyone but that is a good thing.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

rockerc wrote:
Has anyone found this helpful? No comments, you are either all up there checking this trail out, or the pictures don't link, or I smell...


Smell?....like a globby bottle of cheap stinking chip oil?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zRtT5jPLA

Nice pictures Chris. If you're free Sunday, I'm up for a ride that will get you on some different trails up there. Up Como- hike a bike. ( not Cougar ) Maus, Crow, Goat Corral, new trails, Bass Ass Pass, loop back to Edwin and home on Honey Bee. It would be quite a hump. Two of the trails are probably pretty overgrown, so it would probably be a good idea to wear something to protect arms and legs...and yarbles.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ah!!! Nothing like a good bit of Ultra-violence to end the day Max! Quite topical really as that is what it is like here in NYC... I am away doing a bunch of promo stuff this week, Today Show tomorrow early, then The Early show, followed by Oprah on Thursday, and the reopening of Opryland in Nashville Friday... with luck I should be home Saturday, but the bike is in getting a fork and rear shock service right now, so I might not make Sunday... It's taken a bit of a hammering lately, and I figured it would be a good time to take advantage of my absence. They looked at me strangely in Oro Bikes, said that no one ever got their forks or shocks serviced at anything like regular intervals. Hmmm... Fox recommend after 15 hours, and I must have put 4 times that on them... They tell me the Yarble kit is out of stock, so they are waiting on that. I shall PM and let you know how things shape up mate...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Glad you took my advice on riding the Spur instead of Alamo.

As for images.

1. Right click on the Picasa image you want to add and select "copy image location" by pressing the right mouse button
2. Click the image above. It says ---img----
3. Paste in the link.
4. Click the ---img---- button again.

That will allow people to just look at your pictures.... like this:









We need to fix that gate that you have in pic 15, enjoyed the pictures. Great job on an epic ride!

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